If the shotgun is significant Hopkins and also Allen production Company, Norwich Conn. It was made in between circa 1880-1885 and 1898. If marked Hopkins and Allen arms Company, it was manufactured in between 1898 and also 1915. No document are obtainable to give a more exact day of manufacture.

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Hopkins and Allen to buy Forehand Arms agency and W.H. Davenport Arms firm in 1902 and continued to create Davenport and Forehand shotgun design under the Davenport name till 1908 and Hopkins and Allen name until 1915. The Forehand name was dropped ~ a few years.

Value would range from $75 to $315 depending upon mechanical condition and remaining initial finish.

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Patty
4 year ago

Whats the value of one that says numrich arms hopkins and also allen w hurley ny



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Aaron Donnachie
3 year ago

What year was a Hopkins and also Allen 30” barrel shotgun with serial number JL391 manufactured?



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Aaron Donnachie
3 year ago

Here room the pictures


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Two Old Dogs
3 year ago

Aaron: You have actually a Forehand new Perfection design made in the period 1902-circa 1908. There are no records accessible to offer a much more exact date.

Hopkins and also Allen Arms company purchased Forehand Arms agency in 1902 and continued to manufacture countless Forehand models under the H & A name.

This shotgun appears to be somewhat off face and not taken into consideration safe to use with modern-day ammunition

Retail worth for a gun in the problem shown would selection from $50 come $100 relying on mechanical and also bore condition.


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Aaron Donnachie
3 year ago

Awesome say thanks to you!


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Mosb.com
3 year ago

Any details on mine? 20 gauge complete choked Hopkins and Allen arms agency norewich Conn matching numbers take it it out this particular day no problem.

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#11
Two Old Dogs
3 years ago

Mosb: You have a new Model solitary Barrel pistol No. 712 made in the period 1913-1915. There space no records obtainable to give a an ext exact date.Retail worth for a total in the condition shown would range from $75 to $125 relying on mechanical and also bore.


#12
Ferg
3 year ago

I"m ailing of hearing: "I have!"

I require a firing pin for my H&A .20 gCan anyone help?


#13
Two Old Dogs
3 year ago

Ferg: What carry out you suggest being provided in place of "I have"?

Which model? H & A made around 13 different models in the peirod 1898-1915.

Please post detailed pictures of both sides of the finish receiver area, both sides of the gun and readable, close-ups of every markings, including patent days for identification and evaluation.


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Bob
3 years ago

Numrich


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Trevor
3 year ago

I was wondering what price variety mine would be in

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Trevor
3 years ago

Not sure ik it’s a H&A the serial # is 48828 however I nothing think that means much of anything


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Two Old Dogs
3 year ago

Trevor: The shotgun pictured is no a Hopkins and Allen gun and I don"t recognize the maker.

Your shotgun shows up to be missing a create or the trigger is not effectively assembled and the screw in the behind of the create guard is no original.

Retail worth for a total in the condition shown would range from $75 come $150 relying on mechanical and also bore condition.


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James
3 year ago

I have one v2 402 exactly how old is this gun and also how much is it worth


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Two Old Dogs
3 year ago

James: You have actually a design 712 Forehand version made in the duration 1902-1908. There space no records easily accessible to offer a much more exact date.

Retail value for a total in the condition shown would range from $50 come $100 depending upon mechanical and also bore condition and also remaining initial wood and metal finish, assuming you have the removable hinge pin.


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James
3 year ago

Gun works fin and also has all the wood and is in great shape and has the hing pin


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Bruce
2 years ago

What about mine... It states Hopkins and also Allen Arms agency Norwich c o n n USA in the serial number ~ above the barrel is C 78622??


#22
Two Old Dogs
2 year ago

Bruce: there is no means to recognize a firearm with just a serial number.

I am in the process of moving and also my reference library is sealed in boxes.

Please repost your inquiry after around April 1 if girlfriend don"t obtain a prize in the typical time.

When you repost the question, please write-up detailed pictures of both sides of the gun and also readable, close-ups of all markings, including serial number and also patent days for identification and also evaluation.


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Oris Padgett
1 year ago

How old is a Hopkins and also Allen dual barrel with serial no 26980 that’s manufactured in Greenwich Conn.


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Two Old Dogs
1 year ago

Oris Padgett: which model? over there is no means to recognize a firearm with simply a serial number.

Hopkins and also Allen Arms company was located in Norwich, CT and also produced 5 various models of hammer double guns and also 7 different models the hammerless twin guns in the period 1899-1915.

Please write-up detailed pictures of both sides of the gun, both sides and also top and bottom of the recipient area and READABLE, close-ups of all markings including the barrel flats, barrel underside and the frame watertable after the barrels have been gotten rid of from the structure for identification and evaluation.


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Rob
1 year ago

Two old dog , possibly you can help me obtain some details on this next by side.


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#26
Two Old Dogs
1 year ago

Rob: Seminole was a profession name attributed in my recommendations to Crescent Fire eight Company.

The pictured shotgun adorned through the Seminole name is not a Crescent shotgun.

This is wherein the story gets convoluted.

These shotguns room side plated crate lock guns, no side lock guns.

W.H. Davenport, Hopkins and Allen Arms firm and Iver Johnson Arms and Cycle works all made shotguns that carefully resemble the shotgun snapshot posted.

W.H. Davenport seems to have actually been the an initial to develop his next plated shotgun circa 1901 and I deserve to only assume the it was made using the features of one of his patents.

Hopkins and also Allen Arms agency had worked with and used or purchased Davenport patented features because the mid 1880"s.

H & A"s design 110 shows up to be the same to the one pictured in this thread and is dated by part authorities circa 1901. Mine speculation is the a trade name Davenport made gun was mis-identified as a H & A gun due to the fact that some authorities display H & A purchase W. H. Davenport Arms agency in 1909.

My references present that H & A make the design 110 shotgun in the period circa 1909-1915, presumably utilizing the functions of W. H. Davenport patents.

Now get in W. O. Barnes who patented patented a "Breech Loading Firearm" (i.e. Twin barrel shotgun) that looked exactly like the H & A model 110 however had no pen going through the next plate. This patent is number 1,131,984 issued in march 16, 1915.

W.O. Barnes additionally patented a barrel locking device, patent number 1,137,045 approve April 27, 1915.

What is unusual about the Barnes patents is that they to be assigned to mary E. Johnson, Trustee that the estate and widow that Iver Johnson.

Iver Johnson Arms and Cycle Works began producing twin barrel shotguns utilizing the features of the Barnes patents quickly after the death of Hopkins and also Allen Arms agency in 1915.

These Iver Johnson shotguns were offered (possibly exclusively) through Iver Johnson Sporting items Stores and, to my knowledge, never appeared in the Iver Johnson Arms and Cycle works catalogs.

Did the Barnes patents infringe on the Davenport patents owned by the currently defunct Hopkins and also Allen arms Company?

Only suspicious minds would conjer increase a conspiracy choose this.

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The bottom heat is I can only guess that your Seminole profession name shotgun to be made by Hopkins and also Allen Arms agency in the period circa 1909-1915. There room no records obtainable to offer a much more exact date.